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Beatport imposing sales requirements for labels: Less crap in the future?

January 21, 2008  |  By Sotek  |  25 Comments

I stumbled upon this interesting discussion recently over at GU forums. Jay Epoch (label manager for Proton Music) has kicked off an interesting thread worth checking out.

Jay writes:

I've watched sales dwindle each month as Beatport adds more and more labels releasing more and more music. During the month of December, Beatport set a last minute deadline for labels to get releases to them if they wanted to get music out by the end of the year. As a result, there were far fewer releases on Beatport in December. We managed to get our releases turned in on time, but many labels didn't. Sales for these releases we got turned in were about 2-3x that of the normal releases. This got all of the releases into genre top 100 charts.

Anyway, here's the money line:

Anyway, I'm sharing this because I just got this notification from Beatport: "Any label that cannot produce $300.00 in GROSS sales each quarter will be put on a probationary status. If the label is unable to hit the $600.00 mark by the second quarter then that label will be cut from the Beatport system [...] by increasing your promotions outside of the Beatport store and providing a consistent new release schedule we are confident that many of our low producing labels will be able to achieve the quarterly sales goal."

Thank you very much. Maybe there's finally some sort of quality control being implemented. I'm sick of browsing through loads of crap everytime I log in to Beatport. But let's not be so fast here: I know that there's plenty of amazing small labels on Beatport that can't produce those proposed numbers. What about them?

Less crap in the future? Maybe not.



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Its both a good and a bad thing. How do new small new labels get started? How can you build that critical mass?

Itunes does something very similar. You must have a UPC for anything that you want to sell with them. I think its even more of a filter.

Maybe some of these labels will start considering alternative methods of distribution and help refine a music marketplace outside of the Beatport environment.

I'm not against the mainstream music marketplace, but I am against the Beatport factor... where regardless if your song is a hit or not. The value of a label is purely on their availability on Beatport.

A lot of new labels cannot enter to Beatport, maybe because they are saturated...
But they have very bad manners...They even do not ask a single mail.
Now select their suppliers by setting a limit sales...
I think that the policy of beatport is more like a major label to a store.
In a short time they only sold remixes of Cristina Aguilera and Enrique Iglesias :D
I don´t know why they have so many troubles to deal with the people...
maybe because they are the newbies?
They are not interested in the electronic or dance music scene, they handle a drugstore...
La culpa no es del chancho, si no del que le da de comer....

Truth is there is a lot of crap on Beatport. But not only in new releases, in the genre charts also; anything new (meaning 3 days old max) is supposed to be good.
I don't know where the problem is if they just try to improve their business. Maybe this is not the solution. They try, we'll see. About bad manners, in their forum, there are lots of complaints from labels trying to reach the to sell their music there... Beatport must have a hell of a success to ignore potential business partners.
Muy buena, Pablito R la del chancho

Maybe somthin like whats on junodownload where each track needs to be approved by the someone from juno download before it goes online.

they are SO rude.

Another example of "CORPORATE GREEDY MENTALITY".
with one purpuse only to sell and to make as much profit possiblE,AND FORGET QUALITY.
this is why the "majority" of music is so shit and sounding the same,

labels that want to produce something witch reflects quality cant do it because they have to make something more "comercial" to keep beatpork happy,or to keep to the figures up,And pay for the expenses,like, the house in caribean.and the the shallow bitch with the expensive coke habit.

not me.i havent fed the monster once.

Every DJ and Dance music fan has the same music because Beatport only promotes top labels. If you want music that is truly undergrownd and amazing then use Juno Downloads or Trackitdown !!!!

I totally agree with the complains about Beatport,


there is always a destruction after a creation: the democratic system of independent producer now has to be regulated by the web lobby.

They force you to you brokers to be in a shop, pay and then you can sell.


THe musicina was starting to be independent finally but the dream is gone.


The only way is to sell from your own website without any mafia system.

p.s.


confirm that juno and t.i.d. and dj download are the real producer partners. Hopefully they will remain like this.


good music everyone BOYCOTT BEATPORT ITUNES and the mafia system

Has anyone noticed that the have changed the currency from $ to Euro?...Without changing the price! That means some 25% raise on all of their tracks...

Didn't use BeatPort for quite some time. Changing from USD to EUR is the one thing, but leaving the prices unaffected is just gross...

Sounds as if some private equity company bought BeatPort and is now trying to increase dividend :-/

@Ex. Beatport Fan: Where do you live? I'm in New York and all prices are in USD.

I agree, Musicians should tell all these online stores to shove it. There are a bunch of new ware systems that will allow you to sell directly from your website, and they take 15% for the transaction, which is fine by me for the time being. Beatport wants a label (or artist) to promote themselves, and then they can rip you like any other website. Same thing with these peddlers of art, they start thinking they're the great ones. Its dog eat dog - believe in your food and sell it directly. Screw the middlemen.

Interesting post. We too were pissed off by the attitude and rudeness of Beatport. They are too big for their britches and impossible to deal with. we now sell all our music on Masterbeat, and they are light years better to deal with. Check them out at www.masterbeat.com. They are welcoming everyone, friendly to deal with, and have the major labels. We're selling more with them than we ever did with Beatport. People are over the rudeness of Beatport.

the crap is from distribution companies releasing anyone who requested to join......

yea beatport disapointme too. They just kick us out and we are not a hobby o newbie label... we aork so fu%&·ng hadr to sell and now the remove us.. lets gio to juno,...

I thought it was obvious what a pain Beatport was when a remix contest I wanted to enter required BUYING THE SEPARATE TRACKS from the website! How much money do they need for the country club? :(

Hey Dan, the crap can be from everywhere. Even if a label sign with a distributor, Beatport still can refuse them BTW. It's been more then 3 years now that Beatport doesn't open direct accounts (apparently) so the only way to actually be considered by Beatport is to make business with a distributor.

Screw Beatport, I've stopped supporting them! I agree the better download stores are Masterbeat, Juno, Trackitdown & DJ Download... They are rocking and beatport is dropping.

You guys are being very short sited. $300 per quarter is hardly a lot of revenue for a label to make so if your label can't reach that amount the music you're putting out must be below par and doesn't deserve to be in the public sphere. On top of that, beatport doesn't make the $300 level completely mandatory as my mate runs a small, but high quality techno label in germany and they allowed his label to remain on Beatport despite not making $300 (as he only released two tracks in that quarter).

Beatport should be commended for trying to bring some quality control to the digital age.

And the Masterbeat supporters out there - are you guys serious (maybe you work for them secretly?)? I had never heard of Masterbeat and just checked them out and found Lady Gaga, Tiesto, Fedde Le Grand and CHER on the homepage!!! They're peddling the most mundane mainstream crap available in dance music. If you guys think they are better than Beatport than the world is in a much worse state than I feared!

This is making things very hard for the small and inovative labels at the bottom of the pile....

Our label has recieved support from the biggest jocks in the world and massive radio play... But with out Beatport backing and featuring our music we are probably going to fall by the way side as a poor quality label...

And as for quality...

Check out Scrap Shelter...

and tell me they are removing the right labels....

support is needed for labels with a clear business model and plan or the industry will DIE a slow and nasty commercial DEATH

END OF

I just want to say that I've seen the effects this has had on some labels already on a small scale. Or perhaps it's the work of the labels themselves that are pulling tracks? I don't know.

Tracks that I've put down in my notes as favorites for later reference, no longer are available on Beatport. I'm looking through some old track names and half of them don't exist in the system anymore!

And these were tracks that I thought had lots of potential. These were tracks I didn't purchase initially, but I did find them to be very good. It's too bad this is happening.

I agree with you about masterbeat. Thats what i got out of it when i first visited.

How about the thing that who have the most money can buy their own tracks as many times as possible, and by this you increase your chance to get on top 10. so if im a new artist then normally i don't have money for this, but more established artists that have gigs around and can pay much more money for it can but more tracks of them selves.
it leaves the status of a third world countries, the rich people get reach er and the poor get poorer.

Music industry i.e. buying of records is dead, sooner people realise that the better, stop thinking of money and do a art and let it go free, thats way for exposure, i personally wouldnt degrade my work for a couple pound royailtys just to be hyped, no thank you!

anyone know how to see sales figuers for sites like beatport, dj download etc? Be good to know for my self how digital sales are going.

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